Olive oil vs olive pomace oil in soap
Pomace oil is solvent-extracted from the paste left after pressing, and by the Codex standard its fatty acids are olive oil’s, so the bar below comes out within a point on every quality. What differs is the rest: up to 3 % unsaponifiable matter against 1.5 %, a saponification value 1.3 % lower, and the trace. Cavitch found pomace traced quickest of the olive grades, and darkest, and Faiola uses it where a batter should set up sooner, for layers and textured tops.
Olive Oil (virgin / refined / olive oil) Olive-Pomace Oil (refined / blended) Compare them with other oils
The published figures
| Olive oil | Olive pomace oil | |
|---|---|---|
| Saponification value, mg KOH/g | 184–196 | 182–193 |
| Used by the calculator, mg KOH/g | 190.0 (midpoint) | 187.5 (midpoint) |
| SAP for NaOH, g/g | 0.1354 | 0.1337 |
| Iodine value, g I₂/100 g | 75–94 | 75–92 |
| INS (SAP − IV) | 106 | 104 |
| Melting point, °C | — | — |
| Unsaponifiable matter, % | ≤ 1.5 | ≤ 3 |
| Name on a soap label | Sodium Olivate | — |
Each oil alone
| Olive oil | Olive pomace oil | Usual range | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Hardness | 17 | 17 | 29–54 |
| Cleansing | 0 | 0 | 12–22 |
| Conditioning | 82 | 81 | 44–69 |
| Bubbly lather | 0 | 0 | 14–46 |
| Creamy lather | 17 | 17 | 16–48 |
A single oil’s hardness, cleansing and the rest are the same sums the calculator shows for a recipe, applied to that one oil. They explain what the oil brings to a blend; they do not predict how a soap of only that oil would feel.
Swapping one for the other
Gram for gram, olive pomace oil takes 1.3 % less lye than olive oil. For a kilogram of oil at a 5 % superfat, that is 128.7 g of sodium hydroxide for olive oil and 127.0 g for olive pomace oil.
In the bar below, where it is 45 % of the oils, weigh the lye for one and put in the other without recalculating, and the superfat moves:
| Lye weighed for | Oil used | Superfat |
|---|---|---|
| Olive oil | Olive pomace oil | 4.5 %recalculate |
| Olive pomace oil | Olive oil | 5.5 %recalculate |
The superfat is the share of the oils the lye leaves unsaponified, planned here at 5 %; below zero, there is more lye than the oils can take. Put the oil you actually have in the lye calculator and it works out the lye for that oil.
The same bar with either
The bar: 45 % of the one or the other, at a 5 % superfat, for 1,000 g of oils. The rest: 25 % coconut oil, 25 % shea butter, and 5 % castor oil.
| With olive oil | With olive pomace oil | Usual range | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Sodium hydroxide, g | 138.4 | 137.6 | |
| Hardness | 39 | 39 | 29–54 |
| Cleansing | 17 | 17 | 12–22 |
| Conditioning | 57 | 57 | 44–69 |
| Bubbly lather | 21 | 21 | 14–46 |
| Creamy lather | 26 | 26 | 16–48 |
| Iodine value | 58 | 57 | 41–70 |
| INS | 147 | 146 | 136–165 |
| Linoleic and linolenic acid, % | 8.1 | 7.8 |
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Fatty-acid profile
| Fatty acid | Olive oil | Olive pomace oil | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Palmitic acid | C16:0 | 13.8 (7.5–20) | 13.8 (7.5–20) |
| Palmitoleic acid | C16:1 | 1.9 (0.3–3.5) | 1.9 (0.3–3.5) |
| Stearic acid | C18:0 | 2.8 (0.5–5) | 2.8 (0.5–5) |
| Oleic acid | C18:1 | 69.0 (55–83) | 69.0 (55–83) |
| Linoleic acid | C18:2 | 12.3 (3.5–21) | 12.3 (3.5–21) |
| α-Linolenic acid | C18:3 n-3 | 0.6 (0–1.2) | 0.0 |
The figure the calculator uses for each oil, as a percentage of its fatty acids, with the published range in brackets.
Recipes with olive oil
- Castile brine bar 100 % of the oils
- Castile soap 100 % of the oils
- Liquid castile soap 100 % of the oils
- Nablus-style olive oil soap 100 % of the oils
- Savon noir, olive soft soap 100 % of the oils
- Greek olive bar 90 % of the oils
Recipes with olive pomace oil
- Coconut-free oat and chamomile bar 92 % of the oils
- Nettle and yarrow split bar 39 % of the oils
- Tomato and charcoal swirl bar 30 % of the oils
Guides
- Castile soap: pure olive oil, and why it's worth the wait
- The soaping oils: what each one brings to a bar
Other comparisons
Where these numbers come from
Olive Oil (virgin / refined / olive oil)
Section 3 fatty-acid composition (GC, % total FA) is mandatory. Appendix 3 'Chemical and physical characteristics' (relative density 0.910-0.916, saponification value, iodine value (Wijs), unsaponifiable matter) is ADVISORY. C18:3 limit left open in this print (footnote 3: national limits may remain pending IOOC survey).
JP XVIII 'Olive Oil': acid value NMT 1.0; saponification value 186-194; unsaponifiable matters NMT 1.5 %; iodine value 79-88; specific gravity 0.908-0.914.
Ph. Eur. 12 'Olive oil, refined' fatty-acid limits, including linolenic acid max 1.2 %: the source of the record's linolenic range, which CXS 33 leaves open.
Olive-Pomace Oil (refined / blended)
Section 3 fatty-acid composition (GC, % total FA) is mandatory. Appendix 3 'Chemical and physical characteristics' (relative density 0.910-0.916, saponification value, iodine value (Wijs), unsaponifiable matter) is ADVISORY. C18:3 limit left open in this print (footnote 3: national limits may remain pending IOOC survey).